Friday, June 09, 2006

We're the police, and we're here to help...

The rundown:
  • Police respond to a "report" that a door is open in a supposedly vacant apartment complex, and squatters are suspected.
  • The guy who lives there currently and legally is in the apartment with a guest (Asa B. Sullivan, 25)
  • Sullivan is on probation, and hides in the attic for fear of being arrested.
  • The officers arrested the lawful current resident right away and then went after Sullivan.
  • They found him in the attic and both officers shot him.
  • At first the officers lied and said that Sullivan had fired a round through the ceiling at the officers and then they returned fire.
  • Sullivan had only an eyeglass case, no gun.
  • 16 hours later, the professional ones come out with the latest account, which has Sullivan holding a "cylindrical object" and pointing it "right at the female officer". This happened while all three were in the 2 1/2 foot high attic.
  • (Continuing the officers' account) The male officer, "believing his partner was in danger" fired on Sullivan grazing his partner's head(!). The female officer then thinks she's being fired on, and opens fire as well.
  • Sullivan ends up dead, the officers are on paid administrative leave, and their names are not being released.

So here are two guys in a private residence. The cops storm in, arrest one, and shoot the other for holding an eyeglass case.

What do you think would happen if: You were in your own private residence, and an intruder forced his way in and "threatened you" by pointing a "cylindrical object" in your direction and you shot the intruder dead. Afterwards, you fabricate a story that turns out to be obviously false, and come up with another one 16 hours later.

Do you think you'd have your name withheld, go on paid administrative leave, and have people say things about you like:

  • ''They believed this individual was pointing a firearm at them''
  • "They took action they felt was appropriate at the time"

Somehow I doubt you'd get the same special treatment.

Then again, that's why they're the professionals.

5 Comments:

Blogger The Conservative UAW Guy said...

In a "free" country, to boot.

June 09, 2006 10:57 AM  
Blogger nicolas said...

A free country indeed... Ha!

June 09, 2006 11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

boooring...another uninformed individual passing off media speculation and personal suppostion as fact. was the lawful resident arrested? or, was he detained? do you know the difference? was he ever charged with anything?? did the male officer shoot the female officer...are you a crime scene investigator with intimate knowledge of the crime scene? did the involved officers make statements to the media, which you called "lies"? do you really think those officers shot someone then ran out to the media trucks and made a statement?? pretty unlikely...more likely statements made by officers on the fringes who were not involved in the incident or, even worse, pure media speculation. was the attic only 2 1/2 feet high? again, you weren't there and you don't know. please, reason, use your reason to realize that thorough investiations are good things. question: reason is confronted by a man in a dark room....reason is threatened by the man in the dark room...the man tells reason that he is going to shoot him....reason doesn't see a gun, but reason doesn't know if the man is concealing the gun...reason has his gun on him....the man suddenly pulls out a dark object and points it at reason's face...spit-second reason......live or die???....him or you??? thankfully, most people never have to make these tramautic, split-second decisions. i'm thankful that there are "professionals" who are courageous enough to put there lives on the line everyday for the rest of us.

June 14, 2006 12:15 AM  
Blogger M1Thumb said...

Spoken like a true…well, maybe I shouldn’t resort to name calling. But you sure make some funny assertions, there anonymous. Where to start? Well, Reason did a pretty good job of refuting your post for the in-your-face nonsense that it was, but I’ll throw in my 2 cents anyway.

In the first place, the cover-up lie was in a statement given by the department spokesman. If he wasn’t qualified to make a statement, I don’t know who was. The disparity between what they said happened and what actually happened was SO STARK that they were either intentionally perpetrating a cover-up or they hadn’t even talked to their own people. How likely do you think it was that they hadn’t talked to their own people?

Secondly, they handcuffed a man for being in his own home because the neighbors said that the apartment should be abandoned. I don’t care if you call that “arrest” or “detained” but you can’t call it good police work. (It’s being detained by the way.) You CAN call it a good pissing on the Bill of Rights.

Your demand for first-hand knowledge is totally irrational. If there is an article in the newspaper that says we’re at war in Iraq, do I need to have been to Iraq and to have seen the war for me to have the “qualification and firsthand knowledge” to be able to assert that there is a war in Iraq? Reason wasn’t claiming that he knew what the dialogue that took place in the attic was or where the empty shell casings landed. He was simply stating the well-known and easily-verified acts.

Invading someone’s home and chasing their guest into an attic and then gunning him down like a stray dog isn’t “courageous.” At best – and I’m being extremely merciful – I will allow that their actions were “insanely stupid.” To be more realistic, I would say that their actions were stupid, authoritarian and murderous.

You’re obviously a cop yourself, so I won’t expect you to read or understand this. Go on telling yourself that their actions were courageous. Next time you manufacture your own “probable cause” and pull someone over for nothing just because it’s a slow night, you can tell yourself that you’re being “courageous” too. Just be sure to keep your hand on your gun. You never know when someone might pull an eyeglasses case on you.

June 14, 2006 12:39 PM  
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